Great work as usual! I have just obtained the file for my car from Martin Robeys, it seems (as we discussed previously) that my car was 1 of 2 that were originally destined for Iran, for some reason my car was never sent and sold in the uk instead, but I wondered if you had any details on the other car? The Memo that I have shows my chassis number (1566) and the other car as chassis 1443....
On the same memo it mentions chassis 1513 and 1477 both destined for Saudi Arabia?
Hopefully all cars are still alive in one way or another
Regards
Steve
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Jensen interceptor 3 chassis 2240/1566
Renault 5 GTTurbo
BMW E39 530i
Mazda CX-5
BMW E87
Unfortunately i have no information on Chassis No 2211/1443 or 2211/1513
Chassis No 2310/1477 or possibly 2311/1477 was a Convertible but again unfortunately no information on this car either
Kind regards
JIm Smith
Mem No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
Another update on surviving Interceptors as i have been able to spend more time since retiring at the end of last year
I have now identified some history on a total of 2,658 cars
However, of these I can confirm that 72 cars have been scrapped
In addition a further 517 cars, the latest information that i have is pre 2010 and in some cases much older
Some of these are likely not to have survived
However, I have been able to find information on 2,069 cars where the latest information is post 2010 - up to current times
It is likely that many of these cars will still survive
Where I continue to struggle, is in identifying cars that have been scrapped or lost
I have only been able to identify 72 cars with certainty - the figure is likely to be closer to 3,000
Any members or owners that are able to confirm the existence or otherwise of any cars would be greatly appreciated
As always if any members have recently acquired a car, I may be able to provide some history
In August this year, my own car will be 50 years old and in September of this year, I will have owned my car for 45 years
The passage of time will see the loss of history on our individual cars unless we all make the effort to record it
I had proposed providing an Excel spreadsheet on the JOC Forum on all cars, for the benefit of all members and/or owners but there appears to be an issue with Data Protection stopping this, although all of the information that i have researched has come from information within the public domain - if anyone chooses to search for it
In addition to Interceptor's, I have also started to progress similar Excel spreadsheets on 541's CV8's and Healey/GT's/SV8's, although these are still in their infancy
Whilst there are Members in the Club that have been recording information on these cars for much longer than me, there is nothing on the JOC Forum that allows you to access this information
I am fortunate that JOC Member's continue to message me on cars (Interceptor's) from around the World, so my records will grow
I noted in the latest JOC Magazine 289, just received that an advertiser of a Mk 11 Interceptor implies that only 230 cars survive
I have a record of 380 cars of which 289 cars the latest information i have is post 2010 - so probably more survive than they believe
Another point that comes out of my investigation into cars, is that if we take account of other models, there are likely to be more than 3,000 Jensen Owners
Our current Membership is only circa 1,400
How can we attract all of these other to the Club?
Regards
Jim Smith
JOC Mem No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
We will never attract all of the owners to the JOC.
We might be able to attract a few more but there are many owners with multiple cars, who choose to only be members of other clubs, not every car club.
Over the years, I met some Jensen owners who, in conversation have stated that they have zero interest in joining the Jensen Owners' Club or any owners clubs.
FF MK1 119/100
Interceptor MK3 136/8514
JOC Member 8905
Given the fact that cars get scrapped every year after accidents, fire, failed restorations, and that very many members have 3 or more Jensens, we should perhaps accept the current level of membership as "peak membership". Perhaps looking after members we have rather than advertising, planning for increased numbers or higher economies of scale.
Your comments noted and there are members that own multiple cars (or have John!!)
It would appear that in recent years a lot less cars are scrapped - and instead remain restoration projects - although in some cases the tasks become much greater
It would appear that still remain new owners that do take them on and move the cars forward
I am sure that most of the cars that were scrapped were in the period 1975 to 2005 when values were larger at a lower level (early 1990's say some values rise and then fall back)
Given what the club can offer through members expertise etc, i still believe that membership could grow - although i recognise that the membership has been broadly at its same level for many years
I do agree that we should try to promote greater interaction with all members - and i was guilty of being inactive for more than 30 years
I am pleased that consideration is being voiced - i can ask no more
Regards
Jim Smith
JOC Member No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
I bought chassis 123/4229 from Danny Hopkins, editor of Practical Classics magazine, late last year. At that time it had registration number SVN 692K. The car was first registered on 22/9/1971 to Sir Hugh Frazer, then Chairman of House of Frazer with registration number HOF1. Since buying the car I have managed to track down the registration number and have now reunited it with the car.
The car was restored by Danny over the last 11 years and has been the subject of numerous articles in the magazine. It is in good, usable, condition but I will be continuing to restore / upgrade it as time and funds allow.
I have a little history with the car but, sadly, quite a lot of the documentation between the mid 70s and about 2014 seems to have gone astray.
Tom
1971 Jensen Interceptor II chassis 123/4229 HOF1
1965 Gilbern GT1800
1986 Porsche Carrera 3.2 (314,000km on the clock and going strong)
1988 TVR 420 SEAC (with V8 developments 5.1 L engine)
Good to hear that you own this car and are enjoying it
I remember seeing it being on show at the NEC Classic Car Show in November 2019 - sporting the Reg No HOF 1
According to my records, I believe that the car carried the Registration No SVN 692 K as long ago as 1989
I also believe that it may have been repainted Red by 2003 although i know that it is now back to Blue
It i find any other information on your car, I will let you know
If you are able to message me with any previous owner names and dates, this may help me in allocating historical information that i have
Regards
Jim Smith
JOC Mem No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
pcourtney wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:44 pm
I saw this MK 1 on ebay back on 11th April 2023, not on Steve's register - should take you over 400 survivors
NB does not have the original 383 engine, as this has been replaced with a 440 and a Holley Six Pack Carb
That is a peach of a car. Chris may have the original 383, or may have recently sold it. He was advertising a few 383 motors and likely remembers the buyer.
It is worth tracking the motors too. One FF engine did 10 or 15 years work as a boat engine before being reunited with the car as the boat reached end of life! With laser cutting and CNC folding, it won't be long before a laser cutter can section a new panel to fit a cut out for rust repair, and a 3D printer like robot with magnetic feet, electronically stabilised Tig arc can seamlessly tack then butt weld in the new section with such a perfect surface finish that it barely needs sanding before paint. EDM cutting technology combined with plasma stabilisation. Today's untouched rot box will then be a prized possession as rotten original panels can be invisibly restored and gaps can be preserved. Don't hold your breath waiting for it. Perhaps in 50 years it will be a good programmer that is needed to repair a rusty panel!
The watch repair industry is quite interesting. Restoration used to involve making a new shaft, cutting a new gear or pinion. Now with TIG, and a super fine wire, welding under a microscope, individual teeth, sections of a wheel or shaft bearing surface can we built up then ground back to spec. Scratches and worn off corners on stainless watch cases can now be built up and ground back to factory dimensions and finish. Any part of Jensen stainless car trim can be brought back to as new. Just about any part of a Jensen can now be reclaimed. Jensen Museum have demonstrated reclamation of heavily cracked 541 cast iron cylinder heads via a skilled manual process. All that was needed is a shift in mindset more towards preservation of original parts.
First of all thank you for your excellent but surely timeconsuming work .
I own chassis 123-3703 , an early 2vent dash RHD MKII , built December 1969 and delivered early 1970 by Follets UK .
If it's not yet in the list , and you need more info , please let me know .
I got the factory production data and assorted history from Martin Robey .
I once got the info from Richard Calver that around 220 RHD MKII still were on the radar , out of approx 650 built ( RHD + LHD total build approx 1200 )
Catching up with posts on the JOC Forum
Thank you for responding
I have you as owning your car from circa Summer 2013 with details of the previous Owner and two previous Registration numbers
If you have any additional information on the history of your car which you are able to share with me, please PM me
In respect of RHD Mark 11's out of a total of 695 RHD cars (1 Exp plus 694) i have managed to track down information on 276 cars of which 13 cars have been scrapped, 68 cars the latest information is Pre 2010 and 195 cars the latest information is Post 2010
Kind regards
Jim Smith
JOC Mem No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
Just catching up with posts on the JOC Forum
Thank you for responding with details of Chassis No 115/3384 - i had managed to pick up on this car
Steve Hickey who has done unbelievable work on the Mark 1 Register has continued to keep me advised on enquiries that he has received
Of the 1,025 Mark 1 cars, i have managed to identify 36 cars which have been scrapped, 58 cars where the latest information is Pre 2010 and 382 cars where the latest information is Post 2010
So i may be close to 440 cars now, although all of these may not survive - particularly where the latest information that i have is Pre 2010
However the number of cars that have survived continues to grow (currently potential 2,587 cars plus)
Kind regards
Jim Smith
JOC Mem No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
I have now identify current and historical information on a total of 2,716 cars
Of these, 76 cars are confirmed as destroyed bringing the total down to 2,640 cars
Of these, 516 cars, the latest information that i have is Pre 2010
This leaves a total of 2,118 cars where the latest information that i have is post 2010, although some of these cars were in very poor or incomplete
As a breakdown of these 2,640 cars
446 cars are Mk 1's
377 cars are Mk 2's
829 cars are Mk 3's
400 cars are Mk 1V's
180 cars are Convertibles
110 cars are SP's
24 cars are COUPE's
225 cars are FF's
43 cars were originally Unspecified of which 31 of these are Hard Top and 12 are convertibles
6 cars are S4 cars
I am able to break these numbers down into all of the relevant Chassis No designations
Of these cars, i have been able to attribute 410 cars to latest JOC member owners (Post 2010) although a few may have subsequently changed hands
I have attributed a further 72 cars to JOC member owners (Pre 2010) and a number of these cars may well have changed hands
I am expecting the total number of surviving cars to exceed 3,000 cars - which is close to 50% of all cars (circa 6,800 cars in total) and this is significantly more than my expectations when i start my records and i was led to believe that only circa 350 cars survived on the road with a further 350 cars off the road
If anyone is interested in any information on a particular car, please message me and i would be pleased to share this as all of the information that i have collected has come from the public domain
Regards
Jim Smith
JOC Member No 1639
136/8791 RJF 17 Owned since September 1978
