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Steve Payne wrote:4 post ramps are great but becarefull of the cheaper ones on the market. I did some work on a car on one of budget priced lift last year and the way it wobbled didn't inspire confidence.

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Steve, was that a 4 post that wobbled?

[Edit: I have my dad's old Bradbury trolly jack, we have used it from the age of 6 as kids. One of the amazing features we played with was a rapid jack, you twist the handle one way, and the jack goes all the way up to the base of the lift you want with one stroke, you then twist to the middle, and it lifts from that point up. No rubbish removing the handle to release a valve. Are the old Bradbury 4 posters going to be practical and safe once locked into position. I am not looking for a restoration project.]
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You should watch some of the 2 post lift failure videos on utube - scary stuff! Even when brand new, presented for type approval testing.

Also with any 2nd hand 2 or 4 post lift, you have to consider why they are being sold off. Typically they will be worn out, or uneconomic to repair due to unobtainable parts starting to wear out, or, if you are lucky, the business will have failed before the lifts become worn out or too expensive to service... If you don't want a restoration project for such a potentially dangerous (to both you and your vehicles) piece of equipment, buy a new one with good recommendations from other reliable purchasers.

Otherwise, if you have the floor area and ceiling height necessary, go for it. I am sure you will not be disappointed. I have been working on a restoration project using a flat scissor lift. It cannot pick up a 541S from flat on the floor without some additional jacking help for the first few inches, it has some serious limitations in terms of access to some areas, but otherwise is extremely useful.

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johnw wrote:
Steve Payne wrote:4 post ramps are great but becarefull of the cheaper ones on the market. I did some work on a car on one of budget priced lift last year and the way it wobbled didn't inspire confidence.

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Steve, was that a 4 post that wobbled?
Yes it was but I have no idea of the make, the owner of the lift was very proud of it and the fact he had paid about £2k for it. I do remember it was green and silver?

It was bolted to the floor but did not inspire confidence the way it moved about. Maybe it had been badly assembled or was not designed to take a 2 ton car?

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I bought mine from these guys,http://eurotekgarageequipment.com/4-post-lifts/
fantastic bit of kit and would not never out of place in a pro garage, defo not a cheap bit of kit. I also bought the jacking beam. I paid for the ramp to be installed and they outsource to a guy who delivers and fits, got to say I was impressed. Can’t say enough good things about them and defo the best thing I have ever done. I don’t have the hight to stand under it, wheels come up to my chest but I thought it was better than the ramp offered by SJR. They were open to deal especially when I mentioned that I fancied the ramp from SJR.
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Cannot imagine maintaining / repairing my cars without a car lift. Started long ago with a very old second hand car lift (>40 years old) but which was inspected / serviced every year when it was at work at a local garage. When I built my garage I replaced it with a slightly newer car lift, about 25 years old. They are very heavy robust pieces of machinery. With the relatively rare use at my place (compared to a use at a commercial garage) I expect it to outlive myself.
I felt no need to buy new as I think the cheaper ones are built down to a price whereas a good secondhand car lift with service history will often be of a known quality European make. Also, spares will not be a problem should this ever be necessary. These used car lift are often for sale very cheap (got mine for a couple of hundred euros) but as said that does not mean it is bad, far from it.
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Hi Mark,

That looks an awesome ramp. I have sent you a p.m.

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Not having the room for a 'proper' ramp, I've gone for these. There's actually quite a reasonable working space underneath, and on a sunny day you can move them outside....
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I was really disappointed the weekend, was going to have a look at the Automech single post lift, which is a reasonable £1650 +Vat, at the Restoration Show, but unfortunately they weren't there. I wanted to look at the quality of the item and just how stable it is.
It is a mine field, and would really avoid second hand ramps as you do not know how well they have been looked after.
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Anyone got / used or can review Twin Busch ramps https://twinbusch.co.uk/product_info.ph ... ...friends" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; of mine in Germany use the scissor lift and are very pleased with the product and the price as they like me do not have the room for a 2 or 4 post ramp inside the garage...have the width but not the height and the council have refused me planning permission to raise the garage height.

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Kevin Birch wrote:I was really disappointed the weekend, was going to have a look at the Automech single post lift, which is a reasonable £1650 +Vat, at the Restoration Show, but unfortunately they weren't there. I wanted to look at the quality of the item and just how stable it is.
I wouldn't put a Range Rover or Interceptor on a single post lift. I think you need to see a heavy car on one. I saw a single post lift without a car on and it looked substantial and well made, but the owner said it was not really up to it.

I would go for a minimum 4 tonne capacity in a 2 post. My understanding is that the lifts have mechanical locks which hold the car once raised, so the screw or hydraulics are only used during lifting. You can visually inspect a nut on a screw for wear. A professional quality used lift that was well maintained would not bother me so much.
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johnw wrote:I would go for a minimum 4 tonne capacity in a 2 post. My understanding is that the lifts have mechanical locks which hold the car once raised, so the screw or hydraulics are only used during lifting. You can visually inspect a nut on a screw for wear. A professional quality used lift that was well maintained would not bother me so much.
My old lift use cables for the lifting process which can be inspected. Once raised it hangs on the cables but it can be lowered until the spring loaded mechanical fingers catch into the posts. When I leave the car on the lift I usually do that (no strain on the cables).
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Clive Bishop wrote:Anyone got / used or can review Twin Busch ramps https://twinbusch.co.uk/product_info.ph ... ...friends" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; of mine in Germany use the scissor lift and are very pleased with the product and the price as they like me do not have the room for a 2 or 4 post ramp inside the garage...have the width but not the height and the council have refused me planning permission to raise the garage height.

I think their UK distributer was at the recent show at the NEC, they certainly were in 2018
I have looked at these, but the picture shows the car on the runners and the rubber blocks don't look that big.. like you Clive I need something as using axle stands and the floor is a young mans game..
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I have two pairs of Hydraulic ramps I purchased from CJ Autos, you can use one pair to lift the car on its sills with suitable protection of course or put one under each wheel and lift the car higher. If you do this I suggest you also purchase some suitable axle stands so you can lower the ramps on the wheel or axle you are working on. I don't have the height in my garage for a proper lift but this works well and they fold down so well that I can park my Jensen over them once they are fully collapsed.

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Steve Payne wrote:I have two pairs of Hydraulic ramps I purchased from CJ Autos, you can use one pair to lift the car on its sills with suitable protection of course or put one under each wheel and lift the car higher. If you do this I suggest you also purchase some suitable axle stands so you can lower the ramps on the wheel or axle you are working on. I don't have the height in my garage for a proper lift but this works well and they fold down so well that I can park my Jensen over them once they are fully collapsed.

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colin7673 wrote:
Steve Payne wrote:I have two pairs of Hydraulic ramps I purchased from CJ Autos, you can use one pair to lift the car on its sills with suitable protection of course or put one under each wheel and lift the car higher. If you do this I suggest you also purchase some suitable axle stands so you can lower the ramps on the wheel or axle you are working on. I don't have the height in my garage for a proper lift but this works well and they fold down so well that I can park my Jensen over them once they are fully collapsed.

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