Previous owner

Juloping · Post by **Juloping** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:44 am

Hi,

I will like to know if the previous owner of my Jensen 541S (100/1050) was a JOC member because the guy who sells the car was not the owner. This guy was strange abd his garage too !! He gets a website where you cab see all the cars he sells.

The number plate is 5861 SM.

Thank you.

Juloping · Post by **Juloping** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:07 am

This is the add when my car was for sale :

This 541'S has had the head converted to unleaded and the engine re-built. It has a new stainless steel exhaust the list goes on. This is a stunning looking, nicely restored car. Please View www.powerglide.webeden.co.uk

Engine re-built : certainly not. Now, it is !!
Head converted to unleaded : I don't know but I'm suspicious...

Does anyone know this website ? Dos anyone know this lovely guy ?

Post by **VFK44** » Sat May 02, 2009 6:33 pm

Juloping,
You might find this thread of interest:
http://www.joc.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6353

Stephen

Juloping · Post by **Juloping** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:15 pm

Stephen,

It was really interesting and I recognized my two lovely sellers in the description done. I saw the dogs too but behind a door only.
The car is fortunetly not as in poor condition as described in the previous topics. The chassis has been checked by a specialist and is rust free. The body is perfect. The engine will be restored. I have a big job to do with the electrical system...
Thank for all.

PS : 100/1050 is the chassis number noted on a plate just above the fusebox. Should this chassis number be inscribed anywhere on the car ?

Juloping · Post by **Juloping** » Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am

The name of the previous owner of my car, according to the V5 certificate, is John Sykes, living at Ashgate (Chesterfield). He has acquired the far on 1998.
Does anyone know this person ? Was he a JOC member ?
I will be interested by ask him few questions about the restoration he is censed have done.
TY

Julian

Post by **RAP72** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:34 am

Juloping wrote:This is the add when my car was for sale :

This 541'S has had the head converted to unleaded and the engine re-built. It has a new stainless steel exhaust the list goes on. This is a stunning looking, nicely restored car. Please View www.powerglide.webeden.co.uk

Engine re-built : certainly not. Now, it is !!
Head converted to unleaded : I don't know but I'm suspicious...

Does anyone know this website ? Dos anyone know this lovely guy ?

just a though, and I am sure there will be a legal beagle on the forum, but we have trading standards in this country and you could involve them. If you have proof that the engine is not converted then you have a stronger case and you could use the small claims court to recover some of the cost! if you are unsure of what the small claims court does look at http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/info ... /index.htm

Juloping · Post by **Juloping** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:09 am

Hi RAP72,

Thank you for your advice.

I will look at the website but how can I prove the description of the car was wrong.

I'm sure that the engine has not been re-built. When I bought the car, the 4th piston and theirs valves were already broken but I have no proof. The seller will say that they have broken after the purchase...

Concerning the conversion to unleaded fuel, if the only way to check if this conversion has been done is to inspect the seats of the head engine, maybe I can ask to the specialist who has refitted the valves, theirs guides and re-done theirs seats. A formel declaration would be enought ?

I don't know the removed the head engine and re-adjust the tappets clearance one more time !!

I will contact the specialist I've seen for the head engine and will see.

I will let you know.

Regards.

Julian

Post by **RAP72** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:28 am

for me the proof would be via an independent specialist. You would need a qualified engineer of recognized standing to comment.

You might find that trading Standards can advise (they might already have a file on him). Google Trading Standards and his location.

If he claims that the engine was rebuilt it might be that he has to prove it was and not you That is why the small claims court is good. you pay a fee and it goes before a Judge without the normal additional lawyer costs. However, if Trading Standards take it up they might prosecute on your behalf.

Juloping · Post by **Juloping** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:34 am

Do you think I could begin to write an email to the seller, saying the add was wrong concerning the engine re built and the conversion to unleaded fuel, and find a solution just between us, and say that if an friendly solution is not possible, I will contact the small claims court ?
If my offer is not too high, maybe he will agree ?

Firebird1900 · Post by **Firebird1900** » Mon May 04, 2009 6:47 pm

Juloping wrote:Do you think I could begin to write an email to the seller, saying the add was wrong concerning the engine re built and the conversion to unleaded fuel, and find a solution just between us, and say that if an friendly solution is not possible, I will contact the small claims court ?
If my offer is not too high, maybe he will agree ?

It would be best to try that before you go to court. However, he doesn't sound like he is the kind of person who will agree, but its best to try that first before you try other channels.

As RAP says then try Trading Standards. They can and do enforce trading law. If the description of the car is wrong then you have a good chance they will pursue your case for you and as said you never know, he might already be in their sights.

Failing that use the court. Small claims court is very easy.

Post by **VFK44** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:51 pm

I am glad you are enjoying the rest of the car. It is not the car's fault that it was being sold by someone rough! In fact, your purchase saved it from any further abuse at his hands.

This chap lives quite close to me, but please don't ask me to pop into his yard and discuss it with him!

Stephen

Post by **Martin R** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:58 am

Juloping wrote:Do you think I could begin to write an email to the seller, saying the add was wrong concerning the engine re built and the conversion to unleaded fuel, and find a solution just between us, and say that if an friendly solution is not possible, I will contact the small claims court ?
If my offer is not too high, maybe he will agree ?

In a first letter or email, I would not even mention the small claims court, as that already sounds like a threat to which he might not respond well.
Make sure even in a first email, you have written proof from an independant expert.

Save any mention of small claims court for a second email