Restoration of FF 119/133
- Martin R
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Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
Am I correct in thinking you're basically using the old style canister as a "cover" for the MK3 style filter?
Will the pipes mean there'll be a hole left at the top of the canister? Or can you disguise that too? (I can't remember the pipe layout differences between the MK1 and MK3)
Will the pipes mean there'll be a hole left at the top of the canister? Or can you disguise that too? (I can't remember the pipe layout differences between the MK1 and MK3)
FF MK1 119/100
Interceptor MK3 136/8514
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Interceptor MK3 136/8514
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Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
Hi Martin, you are correct the old canister is merely being used to disguise the MK3 filter.
This was just something I got sidetracked with the other day as I keep thinking about how to modify it, I was having a sort through my parts and decided to cut the bottom off the original canister to see what could be done. I will cut off the top hose connection and weld it up later.
I like this setup as the cover canister is easily removed to make filter changes simple and it is also completely reversible if required.
This was just something I got sidetracked with the other day as I keep thinking about how to modify it, I was having a sort through my parts and decided to cut the bottom off the original canister to see what could be done. I will cut off the top hose connection and weld it up later.
I like this setup as the cover canister is easily removed to make filter changes simple and it is also completely reversible if required.
Dave Pearce
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
I visited the paint-shop to check progress today and was pleased to see some good progress, after removing the protective high zinc paint I applied and getting back to bare metal the shell has been etch primed and the body shaping is well underway.
Hopefully now not too much longer till its all in primer.
Hopefully now not too much longer till its all in primer.
Dave Pearce
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
In anticipation of having a painted bodyshell I have been going through my steering and suspension parts so that I can get it back on its wheels when it returns.
Most of the parts are now ready for fitting and the front suspension cage has also been repaired and powder coated.
Most of the parts are now ready for fitting and the front suspension cage has also been repaired and powder coated.
Dave Pearce
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
So Cool DaveMan, Always proud of you and your work, and, it is so obvious that you are proud of your work too, you can see it in your work and presentation, hats off to you Mr Man
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Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
Having had my gearbox rebuilt by Duncan Watts I decided to fit all the brackets and linkages to check everything was present and this is when I found out that the gearbox mount consisted of just one bracket with the lower fixings and rubber missing. After a call to my suppliers I found these were no longer available so after some internet research I decided to make my own.
I was fortunate to have one from another car I could copy and that the large bracket was still present so I needed to make the 2 lower fixings from 3mm steel plate and weld in some fixing studs then make a jig to hold the 3 parts correctly and form the mould for the rubber to be poured into.
I used rubber to A70 Shore rating which seemed as close a match to the original which is a 2 part product just mixed 1:1 and poured in after waiting 24 hours for it to fully cure I was very happy with the result, I now have the part I need and the cost was £20 for the moulding rubber.
I was fortunate to have one from another car I could copy and that the large bracket was still present so I needed to make the 2 lower fixings from 3mm steel plate and weld in some fixing studs then make a jig to hold the 3 parts correctly and form the mould for the rubber to be poured into.
I used rubber to A70 Shore rating which seemed as close a match to the original which is a 2 part product just mixed 1:1 and poured in after waiting 24 hours for it to fully cure I was very happy with the result, I now have the part I need and the cost was £20 for the moulding rubber.
Dave Pearce
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Oily Rag Classics
Jensen FF 119/133
Jensen FF 119/182
Jensen Interceptor III 128/4430
Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
What an excellent resolution.
Great to know these things can be done DIY. I never investigated but always thought vulcanising rubber to metal is not something that can be done without special equipment.
Great to know these things can be done DIY. I never investigated but always thought vulcanising rubber to metal is not something that can be done without special equipment.
The future ain’t what it used to be.
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Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
Fantastic Dave. So good to see this level of care going into it. Those brackets you made look perfect. Hopefully you have enough mixture left to do a few customer cars too. I literally save everything Jensen, rubber mounts especially. Most people won't have to make the brackets if they saved the old bits when dismantling.
As Dion says, so much more can be done DIY these days, quite often most of it is technique. Paintless dent removal with hot glue, mainly technique and tools anyone could make! With microwelders, watchmakers can put new teeth back on gears, rebuild worn pivots and bearing surfaces, and flawlessly weld and grind out scratches in stainless steel watch cases to a perfect original satin or polished surface. Bits of stainless trim for a Jensen would be easy to remove scratches from by filling them in! Micro Tig welding transfer box casings, etc. DIY glass polishers are polishing the glass objects they home cast with a torch, subtly melting the surface of the glass. Not seen it done to windscreens with laminations etc, but perhaps headlamp lenses, or micro welding and softening the glass mm by mm in future? Micro welding stone damage with real glass? I have watched videos on plastic welding, and then welded a cracked plastic car battery case using nothing more than a metal spatula and a hot air paint stripper gun from Aldi! The battery was full of acid at the time, it has lasted 18 months now, with the repair on the acid level line.
As Dion says, so much more can be done DIY these days, quite often most of it is technique. Paintless dent removal with hot glue, mainly technique and tools anyone could make! With microwelders, watchmakers can put new teeth back on gears, rebuild worn pivots and bearing surfaces, and flawlessly weld and grind out scratches in stainless steel watch cases to a perfect original satin or polished surface. Bits of stainless trim for a Jensen would be easy to remove scratches from by filling them in! Micro Tig welding transfer box casings, etc. DIY glass polishers are polishing the glass objects they home cast with a torch, subtly melting the surface of the glass. Not seen it done to windscreens with laminations etc, but perhaps headlamp lenses, or micro welding and softening the glass mm by mm in future? Micro welding stone damage with real glass? I have watched videos on plastic welding, and then welded a cracked plastic car battery case using nothing more than a metal spatula and a hot air paint stripper gun from Aldi! The battery was full of acid at the time, it has lasted 18 months now, with the repair on the acid level line.
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Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
DIY is a necessity these days. Quite possibly Dave will not sell his new mounts, because he might be held liable if something breaks. If he would sell it would be wise to sell them as "showroom parts" only or something like that.
The American way of suing everything/everyone, false or not, has its effects on small business. I know of a person who successfully recreated obsolete Triumph Herald parts but stopped selling these because of fear he might be sued if something went wrong.
This is a very nasty effect of being to have more strict and having more rules and norms these days. Years ago, with a friend, I had a small side-line business converting classic cars to electric power assisted steering. We were quite successful and even looked into exporting to the USA but in the end did not want to have to deal with solicitors if it ever came to that.
Small business have to deal with much more rules and standards compared to decades ago. A good thing for the end customer maybe, but it also has the effect that only big companies survives and the end users all have the same thing.
Sorry Dave for the mis-use of your topic.
The American way of suing everything/everyone, false or not, has its effects on small business. I know of a person who successfully recreated obsolete Triumph Herald parts but stopped selling these because of fear he might be sued if something went wrong.
This is a very nasty effect of being to have more strict and having more rules and norms these days. Years ago, with a friend, I had a small side-line business converting classic cars to electric power assisted steering. We were quite successful and even looked into exporting to the USA but in the end did not want to have to deal with solicitors if it ever came to that.
Small business have to deal with much more rules and standards compared to decades ago. A good thing for the end customer maybe, but it also has the effect that only big companies survives and the end users all have the same thing.
Sorry Dave for the mis-use of your topic.
The future ain’t what it used to be.
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- Martin R
- Posts: 5947
- Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:04 pm
- Location: Chipping Norton, & Sydney Australia
Re: Restoration of FF 119/133
It's really inspiring to see this being done and, knowing who to contact if mine fail
It'll be interesting to see how well the rubber lasts with heat and oil contamination - it may turn out that you might find yourself remaking all of the engine mountings if those don't last too well
It'll be interesting to see how well the rubber lasts with heat and oil contamination - it may turn out that you might find yourself remaking all of the engine mountings if those don't last too well
FF MK1 119/100
Interceptor MK3 136/8514
JOC Member 8905
Interceptor MK3 136/8514
JOC Member 8905