New Electric Ford Mustang

[Richie]

I think the future is very exciting.
We are at the infancy of EVs, and from a driving and performance point of view, (important for us enthusiasts of course) they're already far superior than combustion.

At the moment, home charging is, I think, essential but that's changing.

Range will continue to increase and charging infrastructure will continue to improve - even our local Aldi and co-op shops have both just installed rapid charging points.

Price parity is fast approaching. Depending on your spec, an ICE VW Golf already costs about the same (or more) than its electric stablemate, the ID3. In the meantime and depending on your fuel costs of course, lower running costs and practically zero maintenance can make a more expensive car cost the same to run.

And when the batteries are finally done, I see there are plans to use those that aren't recycled to store electricity for towns and cities. Solar and wind energy can be collected on sunny / windy days and fed back into the grid on dull still days...

As for the Mustang... its a shame that Ford don't have another "premium" brand with which to launch their EV range. The classic Mustang is a terrific part of Ford's heritage. Perhaps they've missed an opportunity to clearly define and create another significant moment in their history??

[Richie]

Here's an article about a company already offering a battery swap service...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3367 ... ies-lease/

[felixkk]

"This Is What The Ford Mustang Mach-E Would've Looked Like In The '60s.... Thanks, but no thanks."
https://www.motor1.com/news/437888/ford ... rendering/

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[Frankoid]

I wonder if the new Mustang E will be around in 70 odd years time like the 541s still are.... hopefully there will still be Jensens around in the 2080's too....

[felixkk]

I wonder if the new Mustang E will be around in 70 odd years time like the 541s still are.... hopefully there will still be Jensens around in the 2080's too....

Of course! They'll be the highlight when they race against the Tesla Xs, the E-Bentley Bentaygas and the E-Lambo Urus' at Goodwood

[ajc9415]

The link below is an interesting clip of a guy who converted his corvette to run on hydrogen. Not a regular guy as he obviously has a lot of specialist knowledge but I’m sure it can’t be long before this gets developed for widespread use.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytg23mDd1a4[b][/b]

[RogerBrotton]

I would place a side bet that hydrogen for motor vehicle transportation use will not happen. The cost, and the length of time it takes to compress the gas, not to mention the size and weight of the tank will outweigh any savings. Not to mention the safety aspect.

A 40 vehicle pile-up in fog, all running hydrogen or batteries ? ? ?..........It will take them 6 months to fill the hole back in.....

I plan on staying well clear.......what could go wrong ?

The new Mustang........just another mini SUV........disappointing that Ford couldn't come up with another name. There must be something about 'Heritage' and sales that they don't understand , or else they are just winging it on the back of the 1960's success. I've seen the TV advertising, and I'm not buying it.
Perhaps in my case, it is an 'age' thing........so be it......but I've heard many groans of disapproval already from car enthusiasts. Maybe Ford are not interested in enthusiasts either ?

[VFK44]

They are obviously willing to sacrifice all the heritage around the name for a quick sales boost. Currently it is obvious which Mustang you are referring to because of the engine.

When the current Mustang V8 has to go electric in 10 years, they had chance to carry the petrolheads with them. But now,
there will be an electric slightly boring SUV called Mustang, and an electric legend called Mustang. Very confusing.

[Richie]

The driver of the electric Mustang will spend so much time explaining it. "I have a Mustang... but it's the electric one..."

Picture the scene of the conversation in the pub (remember pubs? - we can go to them again now!)

"Good to see you again...blah blah blah... what are you driving these days?"

"I've just taken delivery of a Mustang"

"Awesome. They have a big v8 don't they! That's Awesome"

"Actually, I have the all electric one"

'Oh. I see"...

Such disappointment and awkward all round.

Now, if Ford had called it say the "Thunderbolt" (like a Thunderbird but electric) or something, the conversation between the very same people, talking about the very same car, might go like this...

"Good to see you again...blah blah blah... what are you driving these days?"

"I've just taken delivery of a Thunderbolt"

"Awesome. They're all electric aren't they! Tell me more".

Everyone's a winner. Including for Ford who, from what I've read and seen on t'internet, in making the electric Mustang, have made a pretty impressive car. And, for me, have given it the wrong name.

[VFK44]

Absolutely spot on, Richie.

And, for me, have given it the wrong name.

VW have not done much better. Their new all electric car should be a winner, but they have saddled it with such a boring name. The all new IE4. Or is it AD3…? Or...
(It's actually ID, for Intelligent Design. I associate that phrase with fundamentalist nutters in the U.S.).
And what's the difference between the 4 and the 3?

[Steve Payne]

I wonder how many people if the running costs were similar would choose an electric car over an ICE powered?

It seems to me the problem is the range and the time it takes to refill it with electric.

As I have said for short or local journeys they have a lot going for them but longer journeys and it becomes a problem.

Steve

[Richie]

I wonder how many people if the running costs were similar would choose an electric car over an ICE powered?

It seems to me the problem is the range and the time it takes to refill it with electric.

As I have said for short or local journeys they have a lot going for them but longer journeys and it becomes a problem

Steve

I 100% would. Absolutely. Because of the way it drives, there's no way I'd choose combustion over electric.

If - and its a big if - you can charge at home, not only is the means of propulsion vastly better, but its also more convenient.

On the very rare occasions that a journey exceeds the cars range, two things are apparent:

Firstly, it would be sensible and likely necessary to stop anyway.

Secondly, such a journey would inevitably take you past a choice of rapid chargers. As such, in the time it takes to use the loo and grab a coffee, enough charge will be added to either complete the journey or bring you to the point at which another safety stop would be needed.

Over a year, most drivers would spend far less time filling up an ev than they will an ICE. If they can charge at home or work that is.

If home charging isn't available, until more rapid chargers are available, which is happening, then it would be ICE all day.

In short, charging availability is the key. If it's quick and easy to grab enough electricity to do say 200 miles, I see little point in the added cost and indeed weight of lugging about a battery that can do 400 miles. No one should drive 400 miles without stopping...

[RockyUSA]

Ritchie....

You can say what you like, but a buddy of mine just drove his Suburban up from Texas to join us on our driving trip near Lake Michigan,

If he had to stop every 3 hours for a 15-30 minute “quick charge” he wouldn’t have made the journey.

If we had to find “super chargers” in the lower peninsula of Michigan, we would have added hours to our route.

Anyway- we may be old dinosaurs, but we had a blast.

And batteries in the near, and foreseeable future will not have the range, nor the rapid “recharge” ability that a tank of petrol does.

Rocky

Not an E-Mustang...

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[AH1951]

When my Dad came to Montreal in 1977 and drove my 7-litre Pontiac Grand Prix, he remarked upon how smooth and quiet it was, saying, "It's like an electric car!"
He would have been astonished at how quiet and smoothly a modern Mercedes S-Class drives.

[Wolfgang]

Ritchie....

You can say what you like, but a buddy of mine just drove his Suburban up from Texas to join us on our driving trip near Lake Michigan,

If he had to stop every 3 hours for a 15-30 minute “quick charge” he wouldn’t have made the journey.

If we had to find “super chargers” in the lower peninsula of Michigan, we would have added hours to our route.

Anyway- we may be old dinosaurs, but we had a blast.

And batteries in the near, and foreseeable future will not have the range, nor the rapid “recharge” ability that a tank of petrol does.

Rocky

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Nice collection of cars Rocky, and yes I'm having the same feeling as you, we're Dinosaurs, the last generation of petrolheads - but we lived in a 'golden generation' having the fun driving such nice cars. Perhaps in about 20 years (or earlier) it will be more or less impossible (by law) to drive with a combustion engine so I intend then to give my vehicles to a museum to be presented to future generations not understanding why we have driven these cars...

Wolfgang