this car or chassis would not qualify for historic status would it grantGrant wrote:It's a good point that Keith..years ago when they used repair cars instead of write them off at the drop of a hat like now, if you had a serious accident in your Escort or Capri(well any make car for that matter but we all must love Fords ) I think main dealers could re-shell them, (maybe I am wrong), but new shells were available weren't they, and so if that did happen, when you went to pick your car up after the re-shell(if that did happen) it would normally have the same number plate would it not?, was the new shell re-stamped with the old number or a new one?.. I understand if we done it we would "Ringing" the car.. Not Good.Keith wrote:Will it ever be allowed to be registered on the road?
Interceptor bodyshell/chassis built from scratch
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sticky by name stick at it by nature !!!!
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According to FIVA (https://fiva.org/wp-content/uploads/201 ... 2010-1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;):
Guidelines for ANF’s and scrutineers to issue FIVA Identity Cards
8.3.3 Remarks on vehicles preservation groups
Group 1 – Original
This is clear as it stands and requires no other comments than: Pay attention to the appearance of the “perishables”: tyres, sparkplugs, battery, etc. must not appear “modern” nor out of period. In fact these vehicles are extremely rare but nowadays manufacturers are keeping undelivered vehicles.
Group 2 – Authentic
This is also clear, but particular attention must be paid when considering what “period specification” actually means. Only perishables as in group 1 during normal maintenance are permitted.
Group 3 – Restored
The main criteria are the known identity and what the vehicle was like before restoration: the vehicle existed as a whole and very little was left to the interpretation of the restorer. This group represents the majority of our vehicles.
Group 4 – Rebuilt
Rebuilt is the most difficult group, even for the best expert. The wording “as close as possible to the manufacturers specification” must be taken carefully into account.
8.3.4 Chassis / Body issues
Original chassis
Original chassis with original axles, power train etc. plus restored body identical to the original body will be classified A/3.
Original chassis with original axles, power train etc. plus restored body but other body style as original as offered by the manufacturer / market in period will be classified A/4.
Original chassis with original axles, power train etc. plus new body to period appearance will be classified E/4.
Replacement of chassis
The replacement of a chassis must been witnessed by an expert of the ANF (or the FIVA) who will produce a short report supported by photos before and after with details of the identification number.
The report will be filed by the ANF and a copy sent to the secretariat of the FIVA Technical Commission. The numbering procedure will be that of the national laws. FIVA demands a metallic plate, carrying the vehicle type, the numbers of the chassis frame/body shell old and new, plate number and issue date. The plate will be attached permanently to the frame/shell close to where the numbers are punched. The classification will be issued after consulting the FIVA Technical Commission and the change will be detailed on page 4 of the FIVA Identity Card
Guidelines for ANF’s and scrutineers to issue FIVA Identity Cards
8.3.3 Remarks on vehicles preservation groups
Group 1 – Original
This is clear as it stands and requires no other comments than: Pay attention to the appearance of the “perishables”: tyres, sparkplugs, battery, etc. must not appear “modern” nor out of period. In fact these vehicles are extremely rare but nowadays manufacturers are keeping undelivered vehicles.
Group 2 – Authentic
This is also clear, but particular attention must be paid when considering what “period specification” actually means. Only perishables as in group 1 during normal maintenance are permitted.
Group 3 – Restored
The main criteria are the known identity and what the vehicle was like before restoration: the vehicle existed as a whole and very little was left to the interpretation of the restorer. This group represents the majority of our vehicles.
Group 4 – Rebuilt
Rebuilt is the most difficult group, even for the best expert. The wording “as close as possible to the manufacturers specification” must be taken carefully into account.
8.3.4 Chassis / Body issues
Original chassis
Original chassis with original axles, power train etc. plus restored body identical to the original body will be classified A/3.
Original chassis with original axles, power train etc. plus restored body but other body style as original as offered by the manufacturer / market in period will be classified A/4.
Original chassis with original axles, power train etc. plus new body to period appearance will be classified E/4.
Replacement of chassis
The replacement of a chassis must been witnessed by an expert of the ANF (or the FIVA) who will produce a short report supported by photos before and after with details of the identification number.
The report will be filed by the ANF and a copy sent to the secretariat of the FIVA Technical Commission. The numbering procedure will be that of the national laws. FIVA demands a metallic plate, carrying the vehicle type, the numbers of the chassis frame/body shell old and new, plate number and issue date. The plate will be attached permanently to the frame/shell close to where the numbers are punched. The classification will be issued after consulting the FIVA Technical Commission and the change will be detailed on page 4 of the FIVA Identity Card
Felix Kistler
C-V8 112/2454, 541DL 2223849
JOC 9465
Secretary/VP JCC Jensen Car Club of Switzerland
www.jcc.ch / office@jcc.ch
C-V8 112/2454, 541DL 2223849
JOC 9465
Secretary/VP JCC Jensen Car Club of Switzerland
www.jcc.ch / office@jcc.ch
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Been a while , more updates from Jacek.
Good progress.
John P
Good progress.
John P
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Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
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Understeer - Hitting the fence with the front of the car
Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
Understeer - Hitting the fence with the front of the car
Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
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Previous Jensen Owner 2010-2022 (128/4451)
Understeer - Hitting the fence with the front of the car
Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
Understeer - Hitting the fence with the front of the car
Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
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This man is amazingly clever and talented, he gets admiration from me
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yes he is very dedicated and bloody brilliant, one of the areas I have always disliked are the box section parts that run from the A pillars/firewall to the front of the car they are just shite and would be better suited in tubing like an E type
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I wonder if after all this work it will be dipped and better protected than the original ones?
Only working half a day now.
http://www.jensensontour.co.uk
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CDC =cathodic dip coating is the best (but rather expensive) base process for rustproofing:
https://youtu.be/J3qDEc42Gbk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Problem is you have to deliver a pure shell without any sealing or other coating. That could prevent the cathodic primer to slip in everywhere. Or worse - disturb the chemical mixture and balance of the very expensive baths (as seen on early W210 Mercedes)
https://youtu.be/J3qDEc42Gbk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Problem is you have to deliver a pure shell without any sealing or other coating. That could prevent the cathodic primer to slip in everywhere. Or worse - disturb the chemical mixture and balance of the very expensive baths (as seen on early W210 Mercedes)
Re: Interceptor bodyshell/chassis built from scratch
More updates via Jacek
Working on the front , he has made his own front wings...
Really starting to come together.
John P
Working on the front , he has made his own front wings...
Really starting to come together.
John P
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Previous Jensen Owner 2010-2022 (128/4451)
Understeer - Hitting the fence with the front of the car
Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
Understeer - Hitting the fence with the front of the car
Oversteer - Hitting the fence with the rear of the car
Horsepower -How fast you hit the fence
Torque - How far you take the fence with you
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This man is sooo Rich!!...........................................................................................In Cleverness
Bloody Amazing I'm in ore of him.
Bloody Amazing I'm in ore of him.
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Grant wrote:This man is sooo Rich!!...........................................................................................In Cleverness
Bloody Amazing I'm in ore of him.
Awe
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All these clever guys seem to have a Pullmax tucked away in the workshop. I saw one in one of the photos. A very versatile machine which, with the aid of various tools, can do all sorts of things to sheet metal. (Louvres for instance on bonnets is just one example.) A friend of mine who runs Classic Metal Shaping has two of them.
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Jensen PWA 10 2538 LGX 774 1950
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541 alloy bodied prototype.
several other 541's
Indian 101Scout
JOC member number 2
Len Jackson was number 1
aka The Ozard of Wix.
Has owned:
Jensen PWA 10 2538 LGX 774 1950
Jensen 541 PWX 164 chassis no. 22/5206
541 alloy bodied prototype.
several other 541's
Indian 101Scout
JOC member number 2
Len Jackson was number 1
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I commented on that on his thread, and his reply was that it was "always warm". I managed to pick up a Pioneer, which is an almost identical Swiss made machine compatible with Pullmax tooling. Weighs in at a tonne and a half! I am hoping to be able to put FF bonnet vents into a solid one piece sheet. However, like all these things, having one in the workshop doesn't make you an expert overnight unfortunately.
mikebyrne wrote:All these clever guys seem to have a Pullmax tucked away in the workshop. I saw one in one of the photos. A very versatile machine which, with the aid of various tools, can do all sorts of things to sheet metal. (Louvres for instance on bonnets is just one example.) A friend of mine who runs Classic Metal Shaping has two of them.
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