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About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:45 am
by Dion
The car which predated some styling cues for the Interceptor. A bit awkward shaped. Recent article here with pictures:

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/02/rare-rides-a-1965-brasinca-uirapuru-say-what/

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Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:50 pm
by Chris_R
Who knows. You can say the same thing about many cars. For example the wheel arch side strakes of the Jensen 541 and the Mercedes 190SL are very similar. Which came first and who copied who?
With only 75 examples of the Brasinca made half way across the world in a country with no real motor industry to speak of at the time and no Internet did the guys at Touring who penned the Interceptor styling ever see an example to take some cues from? It will never be known. Was one ever shown in Europe or in the USA? Was it ever photographed in a contemporary European magazine? If there was then possibly they took a cue from it. Stylists and designers take their cues from all sorts of places.

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:48 pm
by VFK44
For example the wheel arch side strakes of the Jensen 541 and the Mercedes 190SL are very similar. Which came first and who copied who?


Good question.
The 541 was first, definitely, unless Jensen had an industrial spy in the Mercedes works copying the unreleased cars! Close run thing though.
However, they were both predated by many other cars, especially from Italian stylists - Eric Neale made no bones that he loved "continental" styling and often took inspiration from it.

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:21 pm
by felixkk
The designer was Rigoberto Soler

auto motor und sport / Nr. 1 / 1965 (from Zwischengas.com):
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Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:37 pm
by felixkk
http://bigornia1.blogspot.com/2015/06/u ... ia-do.html

Using Google translate:
„On March 31, 1967, the magazine Quatro Rodas held the first automotive design competition in the luxury mansion of Buffet Torres, located in the Moema neighborhood, in the south of São Paulo. This contest was a clear sign that Brazil was already more than capable of designing its own automobiles, rather than just adapting foreign products to local conditions, and even though its auto industry had only completed a decade. At the jury, the most important member was Nuccio Bertone, who was in Brazil especially for the occasion of the contest. The prize for the winner was the trophy itself and a one-month internship at Bertone's headquarters in Turin, Italy.

At first, it was feared that the contest would be a fiasco due to lack of inscriptions, because building cars was not common in Brazil at that time, but surprisingly what was not lacking was competition, still praising the level of quality of construction and creativity. In addition to Uirapuru de Soler, six other cars will attend the event, including the Puma GT (still with DKW mechanics) and Gurgel Ipanema. The jury's assessment began early in the morning, while awards were given for the evening. During the evaluation, Bononi suffered a cut in the forehead at the door of the Uirapuru, but the car was considered by Bertone as a masterpiece, which is certainly something important coming from a great reference. The prize itself was won by the Puma GT, marking the beginning of his successful career.“

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:48 pm
by Jens
Felix, are you still building houses and stuff or are you just an archive on two legs now?

How can one have so many old papers and time to search? Or is being an architect sooo easy to give you extensive free time?

Chapeau!!

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:58 pm
by felixkk
It‘s part of a broader research, ahem. But- we are doing a restaurant project where we are looking at the architecture of Brasil and Argentina of the sixties and seventies for inspiration. They did stuff you wouldn‘t believe, so beautiful. We’re up in the mountains now anyway.

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:32 pm
by Roh
Looks more like a Studebaker Avanti to me. They were released in 1962.

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:27 pm
by Chris_R
I agree. Quite probably Rigoberto Soler took his inspiration from the Studebaker.

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:15 pm
by Hardy
I find it's not fruitful to guess who stole which idea from whom. Some ideas are in the air at certain times and derive from main trends of the day.
Which implementation surfaces at first is probably more or less luck or a timing and resources issue. And the first one doesn't always take an idea to the best.

Re: About the Brasinca Uirapuru

PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:51 pm
by felixkk
Chris_R wrote:For example the wheel arch side strakes of the Jensen 541 and the Mercedes 190SL are very similar. Which came first and who copied who?


More on the possible origins of the strakes:

https://youtu.be/-gbxbXYa1lg

On the 1946 Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 Speciale by Pininfarina, at about 7 mins

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