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I had a pesky BMW SUV (X5) follow me yesterday. We entered the autobahn on an uphill, as I accelerated he immediately switched to the left lane (right lane in the UK), thinking he‘d overtake me. He didn’t have a chance, it was not even close. I watched him in the rear view mirror- he was way way back, wondering how long it would take to concede defeat and change lane. It took a while :D
It must have been a bit of a damper on his day to not be able to overtake a +50 year old car. Checked the specs on the X5, I know nothing about these cars: apparently 0-60mph in 4.1-7.9s, depending on the engine. He‘s probably thinking about selling his car today, if he didn‘t go directly to the dealer yesterday.
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Always fun watching someone think I will pass that old car.
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it happened to me once (about 25 years ago) while driving a well tuned Mini (the real mini !!) with 140 hp. I was doing 160 kph on the left lane when I came behind a BMW 7 series with a guy driving 130 and smoking a cigar. He was not watching his mirror so I used the Mini little horn to wake him up and I passed him while accelerating. I remember his face to this day
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Only fools fool with a Jensen... or a Mini :D
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I showed this to my nurse and she said while inserting a probe that some people are not in the business of racing on public highways. She also said that there is no known standard Jensen that can out accelerate a nice BMW X5 or for that matter a mini of ANY description out accelerating a 7 series BMW. Unless they (the other drivers) had no interest in matching you. Trust me I know having driven all kinds of minis with rage 1200 S Cooper etc and BMW's that can show a clean pair of heels to most cars. Have never found a fabled Mini (even ones I did "jobs" in that can get less than 7secs to 60miles per hour. I have a well sorted SP and well tunedto sub 5.7 and believe me it is no match for my sister in law's BMW 535i when driven in anger. Like wise my wife's Merc C320. Face it guys...time has moved on and even a "small" shopping trolley will do close to 160 if driven with a death wish.Felixx please put your hand
back on the gear stick and take in your 10 refugees. Kenny38
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Sorry, I got your name misspelled Felixkk. Mea Culpa. Kenny38 :D
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Would like to do a drag race, my interceptor with 300hp at the rear axle (tested) compared with my 240hp 500Nm X-Drive gasoline engine BMW, nothing special, quit a "standard" these days
I fear my BMW will win, to be honest

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NorbertB wrote:Would like to do a drag race, my interceptor with 300hp at the rear axle (tested) compared with my 240hp 500Nm X-Drive gasoline engine BMW, nothing special, quit a "standard" these days
I fear my BMW will win, to be honest

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kenny38 wrote:Sorry, I got your name misspelled Felixkk. Mea Culpa. Kenny38 :D
No problem whatsoever, Kenny. Tell your nurse :D, that I did not race him! I accelerated plusminus as I always do when I have the opportunity (it‘s a C-V8 after all, what else is one to do?), especially when it’s an uphill. The weakest X5 has I gather a similer 0-60 time as the C-V8, plus it was an uphill- I assume the weight of the SUV didn’t help. Maybe somebody good in physics can clarify. But I agree, there really is no point in measuring a 50 year old car against a new one.
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NorbertB wrote:Would like to do a drag race, my interceptor with 300hp at the rear axle (tested) compared with my 240hp 500Nm X-Drive gasoline engine BMW, nothing special, quit a "standard" these days
I fear my BMW will win, to be honest

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Do it! Go Chris! :D
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Although I love my Pirelli's, Adco roll bar, and Koni shocks, I would not want to lock horns with an X5 on a curvy, mountainous road (would be fun to try, though). However, with almost 600 lb-ft of torque and a GVO, in a straight-road passing situation, if the X5 (or other modern premium luxury car) accelerates when you start to pass just to be difficult, there is a decision to make. Do you further depress the right pedal and pull on around, or, do you remain behind the miscreant, engage full throttle, and draw him in through the louvers and then blow him out the resonators? Lest this sound cruel, with the advanced aerodynamics of modern vehicles, they pass through quite easily and while the car and driver are a little sootier than they entered, they are otherwise no worse for wear. With the economy cars, you can do one on each side :wink: .

If you think THIS is a exaggeration, just allow yourself to be talked-up by a salesman in a BMW showroom :D .
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Quite out of character for me but a few years back, I did similar on the M4 motorway. A baseball cap wearing oaf in a bodykitted VW Golf came right up close. I floored it and giggled to myself as I just his jaw drop before i saw him disappearing in the mirror ... very satisfying.
My daily driver is a perfectly fine but hardly road burning 2006 1.8 Honda Civic. On paper the Jensen wins the performance battles everywhere... on the road, the Jensen wouldn't keep up if pressed.
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I had a similar experience after overtaking a Rover 3500 as a light skinny teenager on a Ducati 250 desmo with race kit and straight through megaphone. I didn't need to beep to wake him up! I remember hitting an indicated 90, which came so quick on that, and he was still there on the right, half a mile back, as I was getting ready for the corner at the end of the straight.

These Jensens have a lot of grunt in 1st gear up to about 55mph, 2nd gear, from about 65 to 100mph. Very useful power, little lag, that smaller modern cars need to build up to. Also few small mods and updates can make a massive difference too. FF no 11, the ex GKN Chairman's car, had a factory fibreglass bonnet with a carefully disguised but significantly wider cold air scoop going straight into the air cleaner. When I replaced the air cleaner with a dual snorkel version that effectively blocked that off and instead sucked hot air from under the bonnet, the car was noticably tame in comparison.
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Lets say it was a X5 (E53) with 218HP, top speed 210kmh, 0-100 in 8.3secs, 2170 kg, granted with 500Nm. How is that overly impressive? The 231HP model does 1-100 also in 8.3 secs, with a top speed of 215kmh. Please correct me if my googled specs are off... but that car shouldn’t have any advantage over an Int/CV8. Or what am I missing?

The Force of Gravity vector of that X5 is 40% longer than mine, making the FII also 40% greater. Correct?
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The BMW may get lighter, though, as your exhausts burn the paint off his bonnet as you go by. :twisted:
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