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by kees » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:46 pm

Best to do Rotterdam Europoort (1hr 15m) as that will leave you enough time for the lunch on Sunday as last check-in is at 19:00.
In Zeebrugge (min. 2hrs driving) that is 17:00 which could be a tad tight.
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by colin7673 » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:41 pm

Or Clive eurotunnel
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by Helen » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:51 pm

Not booked yet Clive but, as Kees says Rotterdam is better (you can avoid the Belgian traffic) and the boats are nicer! I shall be liaising with Stuart and Gill Allan but I think we will be going out on the Wednesday night.
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by colin7673 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:56 pm

Helen wrote:Not booked yet Clive but, as Kees says Rotterdam is better (you can avoid the Belgian traffic) and the boats are nicer! I shall be liaising with Stuart and Gill Allan but I think we will be going out on the Wednesday night.


But then you have the Dutch traffic so best to have a coffee when you get off the boat. When get to Belgium most of the traffic would have gone
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by kees » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:59 pm

colin7673 wrote:
Helen wrote:Not booked yet Clive but, as Kees says Rotterdam is better (you can avoid the Belgian traffic) and the boats are nicer! I shall be liaising with Stuart and Gill Allan but I think we will be going out on the Wednesday night.


But then you have the Dutch traffic so best to have a coffee when you get off the boat. When get to Belgium most of the traffic would have gone


Dutch traffic on a Sunday is negligible!!
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by jjorj » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:20 am

Advantage of Dover Calais is lots of sailings or trains, and not weather dependant on the Tunnel.

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by kees » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:06 pm

Easy from Kent but if you have to travel from North of London there is that nightmare of the M25.

However last summer I travelled from Dover to Luton Airport planning to take the M25 with the predictable hold-ups showing on my satnav and than changed my mind to go straight on to the A20 through the Blackwall tunnel A12-A10 on to the North Circular A406 and up to the M1 near Edgeware. No problem whatsoever!!
Relived old memories when I was living in Wood Green two blocks away from the North Circular.
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by kees » Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:32 am

colin7673 wrote:
Helen wrote:Not booked yet Clive but, as Kees says Rotterdam is better (you can avoid the Belgian traffic) and the boats are nicer! I shall be liaising with Stuart and Gill Allan but I think we will be going out on the Wednesday night.


But then you have the Dutch traffic so best to have a coffee when you get off the boat. When get to Belgium most of the traffic would have gone


On weekdays avoid the areas Rotterdam/Den Haag/Amsterdam/Utrecht/Breda/Eindhoven or A2/A4/A12/A13/A15/A16/A27/A58 between 06:00-09:00 and 15:30-19:00, expect multiple delays, not a lot different from the M25!
So coming of the ferry in Hoek van Holland or Rotterdam Europoort take your time before setting of further inland although these ports are fairly desolate places. Generally there are no big problems in the weekends.

From the French/Belgian ferries it is more or less the same story with most difficulties around Antwerp/Gent/Brussels or N31/A10/A18/R0/A3.
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by Steve Payne » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:55 pm

My plan is to head South from Calais towards Arras and then head East towards Namur and Liege.

According to most of the route planners it is only 15 miles further and should take only take 20 mins more with hopefully a lot less traffic.

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by Toby » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:53 pm

Steve Payne wrote:My plan is to head South from Calais towards Arras and then head East towards Namur and Liege.

According to most of the route planners it is only 15 miles further and should take only take 20 mins more with hopefully a lot less traffic.

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That may be the route we take as Brussels always seems congested
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by Wolfgang » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:31 am

Toby wrote:
Steve Payne wrote:My plan is to head South from Calais towards Arras and then head East towards Namur and Liege.

According to most of the route planners it is only 15 miles further and should take only take 20 mins more with hopefully a lot less traffic.

Steve

That may be the route we take as Brussels always seems congested


you may also take the route via Dunkerque, Bruges, Antwerp, Hasselt to head for Liege, but anyway you'll end up in some traffic jam
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