Dutch Autumn weekend 19-22 September 2019

[kees]

We now have the final details of our Autumn weekend 2019 in the German Eifel/Hunsrück area from 19 to 22 September. Yes, it is an extra day on the Thursday.

Arrival on Thursday 19/09 from ca. 12:00 at:
Hotel Berg & Dal, Roodweg 18, 6285AA Epen
http://www.bergendalepen.nl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
in the very South of the Netherlands.

On the Friday we will take a scenic route to the very picturesque town of Monchau where you can have a stroll around and have lunch. From there on we will continue to our final destination:
Seehotel Kell am See, Seeuferweg 1, 54427 Kell am See
http://www.seehotel-kell.de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
in Germany where we will stay 2 nights.

On the Saturday we will have a scenic tour into Trier where you can have a visit to this very interesting city and have lunch. From there we will travel back to the hotel along the back roads.

On the Sunday we will travel in the NNW direction to Hotel Berg en Dal in Epen once more where we will have our final lunch after which we will say goodbye and travel homewards or ...........

It is strongly advised to bring an up-to-date TomTom, Garmin or similar sat-nav if you want to deviate from the route or want to visit some special places. The scenic drives can also be downloaded to many TomTom or Garmin and possibly other sat-navs. These will be send to you by email including a digital version of the route book with all details and route descriptions.

The price for the whole weekend will be €280 per person based on double occupancy of the room, so per couple €560.
Single occupancy is €340.
This includes 3 nights stay, 3x breakfast, 3x diner, final lunch on Sunday.

Admission fees for POI's in Monchau or Trier and the lunches on Friday and Saturday are not included.
The organised lunches on the Friday and Saturday have been omitted as many found them far to copious. So now you can have something light at a Konditorei, a Big Mac meal at McDonalds or a 3-course meal in a fancy restaurant to your choice.

The booking of the Autumn weekend is through the HJGH only. If you want to stay some additional nights in the hotel before or after the weekend you may contact the hotel directly mentioning that you take part in the HJGH Autumn Weekend.
If you prefer us to arrange the extra night(s) for you or if you have questions about rates for children, please contact us.

The number of available rooms is limited so if you are seriously interested make sure to book early!
Your booking will be confirmed after payment only.
Closing date is 1-July 2019. Later bookings are subject to availability.

When booking please state your full name, address and email-address; name of your partner; make and type of your car. Also inform us of special requirements regarding diets etc.

Payment details:
Het Jensen Genootschap Holland
IBAN: NL29 INGB 0003 2760 61
BIC: INGB NL2A
ING Bank NV, PO Box 1800, 1000 BV Amsterdam
under "herfstweekend 2019" AND YOUR NAME

For further information and booking or in case of paying using another method than our IBAN please contact:
Hans Harting: harting@jensenholland.nl
Kees Oudesluijs: coudesluijs@chello.nl. or oudesluijs@jensenholland.nl

[Anton001]

Hi Kees,

I am in

Anton

[colin7673]

Hi Kees, I'm In.


For those traveling from the UK, here is some, maybe, helpful information.

Requirements for all UK drivers when driving abroad from 29 March 2019
From 28 March 2019, drivers from the UK may need a different international driving permit (IDP) to drive abroad.

Under international conventions, GB is the distinguishing sign to display on UK-registered vehicles when driving outside of the UK, including in the EU and the EEA.
You can display the distinguishing sign as either a GB sticker or a GB sign on your number plate.
From 29 March 2019, if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, you may need a GB sticker even if your vehicle has a Euro-plate (a number plate displaying both the EU flag and a GB sign).
You will not need a GB sticker to drive outside the UK if you replace a Euro-plate with a number plate that features the GB sign without the EU flag.
A motor insurance Green Card is evidence of motor insurance cover when driving abroad.

The EU, EEA, Andorra, Serbia and Switzerland are part of a Green Card-free circulation area. Currently, you do not need a motor insurance Green Card to drive a UK registered vehicle in these countries.
From 29 March 2019, in the event, that there is no EU Exit deal and the European Commission does not make a decision ensuring that UK registered vehicles will not be checked for proof of insurance, drivers of UK registered vehicles will need to carry a motor insurance Green Card when driving in the EU and EEA.
Road traffic accidents in the EU
From 29 March 2019, in the event that there is no EU Exit deal, UK residents involved in a road traffic accident in an EU or EEA country should not expect to be able to make a claim in respect of that accident via a UK-based Claims Representative or the UK Motor Insurers’ Bureau (MIB).
Instead, UK residents involved in a road accident may need to bring a claim against either the driver or the insurer of the vehicle in the EU or EEA country where the accident happened. This may involve bringing the claim in the local language.
In the event of an accident in an EU or EEA country caused by an uninsured or an untraced driver, UK residents may not receive compensation if there is no EU Exit deal. This will vary from country to country.
If involved in a road traffic accident in an EU or EEA country before 29 March 2019, you may need to bring legal proceedings in the UK against either the insurer or the MIB before 29 March 2019. After 29 March 2019, you may need to bring legal proceedings against either the responsible driver or the insurer of the vehicle in the EU or EEA instead. If you need more information about this, you should seek legal advice.

All this and more can be found at
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/prepare-to- ... march-2019" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is as well as everything else that must be carried, which are legal requirements at the moment.

Hope this will not put anybody off traveling abroad to meet up with on the 'Dutch Weekend'

Mr and Mrs Brooks, myself and Diane plus Mr and Mrs Burton will be traveling to the Travelodge at Ashford to stay over on Wednesday night, catching the 10.O'Clock train at Folkstone on Thursday to travel Holland.

Hope other will do the same.

[kees]

One has always needed a "green card" when travelling abroad.
Even if a Soft Brexit takes place, the remarks by Colin are valid. That is why it is a Brexit.
Kees Oudesluijs

[colin7673]

Booked and paid.

And booked Travelodge in Ashford.

[Chris_R]

Hi Kees, I'm In.


For those traveling from the UK, here is some, maybe, helpful information.

Requirements for all UK drivers when driving abroad from 29 March 2019
From 28 March 2019, drivers from the UK may need a different international driving permit (IDP) to drive abroad.

There are three different IDPs. The 1926 version, the 1949 version and the 1968 version. Each costs £5.50.
If driving in Liechtenstein you need the 1926 version.
If driving in Cyprus, Iceland, Malta or Spain you need the 1949 version.
If driving in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia or Sweden you will need the 1968 version.
Thus if you want to drive through France and into Spain (not applicable on this trip) you will need both the 1949 and 1968 versions.

[kees]

I very much doubt if you really need an International driving licence at all in Europe, USA etc. I have never been asked for one in Europe, UK, USA when hiring a car or being checked by police etc.
When the script is different from that in the Western world or in an incomprehensible language only you would need one, but as long as English or French is included there is usually no problem.
Going to NL, B, F, L or D I would not worry in the slightest.
Kees Oudesluijs

[Chris_R]

Kees, an International Driving Permit is a legal identity document that permits the holder to drive a car in a country that has recognised the document. And this is the point. Your driving license is a legal document in the Netherlands and in the rest of the EU (and before that the EEC) under the free movement of people principle which is why you have not needed an IDP anywhere in Europe.
It is not a legal document in any other country unless that country has specifically chosen to recognise your driving license as a valid permit to drive.
Once the UK leaves the EU then the UK driving license has no legal validity in the EU and we revert to the situation that existed before 1st January 1973 when we did need an IDP to drive in Continental Europe. It is up to each individual country (not the EU Commission) if they choose to recognise the UK driving license as a legal permit to drive in their territory. If they haven't and in the event of an accident if we don't have a IDP we could potentially be in big trouble as we would have been driving without a legally recognised permit to drive.
I am not sure if the USA have chosen to recognise UK (and others) driving licenses as legal permits to drive or not. If they have then you don't need an IDP. Usually such arrangements are bilateral.
For £5.50 it's better to be safe than sorry.

[kees]

Chris,
I am sure you researched this very well and that you are right in theory. What I am saying is that in practice you do not need an International driving Licence in most countries in Europe, even after Brexit. Anyway, the International driving licence has no value unless shown together with your UK driving licence. In essence it is just a translation of the national document.
I have been travelling around by car in Europe and the UK since 1965 without any need for an International Driving Licence and even in the USA I do not need it. I have the feeling they have no idea what an International Driving licence is.
Cheers,
Kees Oudesluijs

[gamsberg]

Hi Kees,

my wife Elke and I have booked.
See you in Epen.

Cheers

Dietmar

[colin7673]

Hi Kees, I'm In.


For those traveling from the UK, here is some, maybe, helpful information.

Requirements for all UK drivers when driving abroad from 29 March 2019
From 28 March 2019, drivers from the UK may need a different international driving permit (IDP) to drive abroad.

There are three different IDPs. The 1926 version, the 1949 version and the 1968 version. Each costs £5.50.
If driving in Liechtenstein you need the 1926 version.
If driving in Cyprus, Iceland, Malta or Spain you need the 1949 version.
If driving in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia or Sweden you will need the 1968 version.
Thus if you want to drive through France and into Spain (not applicable on this trip) you will need both the 1949 and 1968 versions.

Why make it more complicated Chris,,? That’s why I put a link in the post so anybody could check things out if they wished

[kees]

Half of the rooms firmly booked already. Things are really speeding up.
We also created the option to skip the Thursday. This means that if you will join us in Kell on the Friday the costs of the weekend will be €405 for a double room and €250 for a single room. Some people had been asking for this.
Kees Oudesluijs

[kees]

Only 6 more double rooms and 2 single rooms to go.
Kees Oudesluijs

[DavidM]

Hello Kees,

Please book Maureen and myself in for the trip. We will send the finance shortly.

best regards

David

[kees]

The last double room and 2 single rooms still available. However contact us first before paying, just in case the last room has gone. Saves the hassle of returning the payment.
Kees Oudesluijs
HJGH