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and Mark: I just used 3 coats of POR15 as a primer and top coat. Nothing else. Had to sand everything down between coat 2 and 3 to make sure it bonded. BTW the product is UV sensitive, but not a concern for interior application as it will be covered with sound insulation / carpeting.
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grottenolm wrote:I used first brantho korrux as a primer and then 2 to 3 coats of brantho 3 in 1 as a rust inhibitor paint. This is according to the recommendation of the experts I mentioned in my other post. I used the same stuff also for the underbody and a clear wax - so I could detect any potential rust very quickly (rather than it hiding under a layer of underbody sealer)
Great, I am asking because here in California and the states paint and glues are on the way out. Meaning, basically water. I ended up learning how to import Alpha 1358 adhesive from GB. Definitely will try the same for brantho korrux.

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Try DTM Epoxy primer. No VOC restrictions and is readily available in most of the Automotive paint stores (or on line at TCPglobal.com )It comes in red (almost equiv shade to original Jensen primer) Gray white and black. It sands very well and can be recoated up to 4 hours after tack off without sanding. It makes a great sealer for old finish covering as well as a bare metal primer. No need to jump to water borne with its specialized equipment just yet in CA...
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bkbridges wrote:Try DTM Epoxy primer. No VOC restrictions and is readily available in most of the Automotive paint stores (or on line at TCPglobal.com )It comes in red (almost equiv shade to original Jensen primer) Gray white and black. It sands very well and can be recoated up to 4 hours after tack off without sanding. It makes a great sealer for old finish covering as well as a bare metal primer. No need to jump to water borne with its specialized equipment just yet in CA...
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I have 133/5832, made pretty close in time to yours.
I noticed from your pics that you have the same aluminum water pump pulley as mine. I was never sure if it was original, because I've never seen another one like it before until now. But I still don't believe it is a Chrysler part, so it must be something Jensen put on there for some reason.
Unfortunately, mine was worn out and cannot be saved (belt was constantly slipping due to the belt wearing into the soft aluminum.).
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Interesting, never realized the water pump pulley was aluminum - I'll have to check on that.

When I pulled the motor, I found the square engine tag above lodged down low on the inner apron near the steering linkage. Must have fallen off and was luckily still trapped there. Anyone know where it is normally located? Also, the red, oval tag was in the glove box. Not sure what it is for - number doesn't match the engine serial and it is hard to read. There is undercoating on the left side, need to figure out how to get that off without ruining the red paint.
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Hi,

On my car ('74 Mk III Interceptor), the square engine tag was located on the rocker cover (and I'm pretty sure it's the same on most cars):

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What a fantastic effort! It really 'warms the cockles' to see such commitment & high standard.
The car looked fantastic, in terms of unspoilt originality & thats rare, was it painted in fawn?? That sounds horrid colour but suits the Interceptor shape wondefully.
How lucky this car is to have survived then found a committed new custodian- very well done indeed!!!!
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this is really an extraordinary effort - congratulations.

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Thanks Jan, Dino and Tim! I've been taking my time to avoid other life conflicts :D

Tim, I think the color was originally Oatmeal, but hard to be sure as it is so far gone. I did find a few areas where it was still bright and it is definitely 70s hip and takes some getting used to. I was hoping it's Fawn, but don't believe so after looking at pics in the forum.
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And Dino, the tag position makes sense now. It was stuck in the insulation by the steering column linkage right below where yours is mounted.
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Before pulling the motor, I turned it over by hand which was a good sign. Checked the oil and pulled a few plugs, everything looked OK so we tried to fire it up. For some reason the starter wouldn't engage, though. After troubleshooting for an hour, we found that a squirrel had gnawed through some of the wires on the engine bay harness back behind the brake booster. As it was a really hot day and we decided to give up and focus on getting the "lump" (as you guys say) out of the car. In retrospect this was very fortunate: the pictures of the water pump inlet above show how the coolant had turned into alien jello and clogged the entire system. Went to the engine shop a few months later and took this pictures. If the engine had started the block would have probably been scrap afterwards. Interestingly, the engine guy measure the compression and came up with 7.9:1, which is definitely not HP as advertised. As the block, heads and pistons were originally this must be one of the later anemic versions.

Good news is that the transmission rebuild is now finished so I'll have some pics of that in a bit.

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I have 133/5767 which is from July 72 and seems to be the 9th Int III made with the 440 engine . So yours must be even easier than that? Also it is not clear from your pictures, but mica has a MkII brace for the radiator which means that I will have to go for a much smaller AC condenser when I rebuild the AC as there is a small tube passing in front of the engine radiator that prevents placing the full scale Int III AC radiator

I will check where my square tag is but it is not on the square of the rocker cover
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Sorry for the delay, Hervé. I know it is an early MKIII, but am not entirely certain as to when the 440 was introduced. Mine has one and - based on the simple serial progression - appears to have been built 58 cars ahead of yours. I just got back from holiday in the US and while there by chance saw the rotted remains of 133 / 5611 - it also had a 440.
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American John,

Upon checking, I do not have any engine tag anywhere, My engine number is 10321 so yours is just 26 before (getting closer)

However, I have similar to yours the engine number engraved (proving it is matching number :D ) but no tag. Probably another thing to order from Appleyards...
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I would like to understand the meaning of what is engraved on the engine. I

I have HC 10321 wondering what HC means (High Compression ?) What are the meanings of the other numbers there, I have no idea

There is a 1, a 7 and other numbers unfortunately hidden by the shadow of the coil on the picture above (need to take a look at it tomorrow)
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Triumph Spitfire 1500FH 1976 White/black
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