Paul Strange's modified FF

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Paul Strange's modified FF

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This is the club’s new editor – Paul Strange, pictured with his 1970 FF II.

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History of 127/206

My car is one for the first FF Mk IIs, built early in 1970. Luckily it was fitted with the E series HC 383 engine, so it was also a relatively quick car in those days. I believe the original owner was a motoring journalist; the ownership trail is then a bit hazy, but at some stage 127/206 was acquired by Norman Long, who was the Parts/Service manager at Cropredy Bridge. The car clearly liked its new owner, as Norman famously kept it in concours condition, and indeed it won many such competitions. Norman had many of the engine parts and ancillaries chrome-plated, which may have looked good, but ensured that the correct spanner would not quite fit unless well-worn!

The car was then sold to Norman Wheat, who lives in Leeds. Norman must have driven the car quite hard and long, as its history file at that time shows various tests that Norman undertook with it, and one note records that he was thinking if fitting a supercharger to it – more power was evidently desired. Norman also has a Lotus Super 7 for hill climb competitions, so he clearly enjoyed his time with 127/206.

But time passed, and the car became unused, sitting in Norman’s electronics factory in air conditioned splendour. And that’s where I found it in 2004 with the help of Dave Barnett. I had been looking for an Interceptor to buy, and had looked at several. Unhappily one prospective purchase even ended up in a successful court action to retrieve my deposit from a rather unscrupulous Jensen “dealer” located near March.

The car was bought with Dave’s advice (despite no MoT!) and then trailered down to his house for re-commissioning and MoT. After that, I ran it for about a year before accepting that the car did indeed need some money spending on it – in reality the car superficially looked in far better condition than it actually was. So, off to Cropredy Bridge it went in 2005, resulting in a large (but fair) bill for work that included replacing both chassis tubes, which were quite rotten..........

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After that expense, I drove the car quite a bit, but gradually came to accept that, at 40 years old, anything that hadn’t already been replaced probably needed replacing quite urgently. First to be dealt with was the bodywork, so the car went to C&H Autos in 2007 for a complete repaint, where Colin did a splendid job (his workmanship is truly quite extraordinary, and his prices very reasonable indeed).and I had certain bits of chrome replated too. After much debate we’d chose to have the car repainted in it original white, bit a slightly different shade with a tinge of blue in it. As Colin said when I rang him to ask him how it looked, he said “just like a fridge!” and the car acquired a new nickname from then on.

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But, the engine and transmission had both been dribbling ever since 2004 (don’t we all as we get older?) and similarly wasn’t quite as hairy chested as in its youth...... So, rebuilding of the engine and transmission was the next priority. I finally ended up talking the car to John Sleath Racing Ltd.; John’s business is based on modifying engines (especially American V8s), notably for the drag racing fraternity. After much discussion and research, I ended up with a stroked and bored engine with a Pro-form carb, and an upgraded transmission, and 475bhp/581lb ft on John’s dyno.

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Not surprisingly, 127/206 certainly now went very well indeed (Dave Newby took a short trip in it at the time and exclaimed “bloody hell!”) but it had a matching thirst as well. And it also ran hot, which exacerbated a tendency to pink at high revs.............

So, in 2009 I took the plunge by getting John to fit EFI (the F.A.S.T. system) which reduced the thirst, but gave rise to a whole lot of new problems with blocked fuel filters, new petrol tanks, and – it still ran hot!

Since then, I have spent most of my time trying to get the engine to run cooler. I already had a Cropredy Supapack radiator, so up rated Bosch fans were fitted. The engine still ran hot. I then fitted a new purpose=-built aluminium radiator and Spal fans – and the engine still ran hot. I then fitted even bigger Spal fans and a cold air induction system – and the engine still ran hot. I’d tried everything, from Water Wetter to high flow thermostats, different temperature sensors, etc. and it still ran hot.............

Last winter one of my sons came across a Dodge Charger forum where the guys had been struggling too with their Chrysler engine running hot. It’s really worth a magazine article in itself, but on their recommendation I fitted a high flow Milodon water pump and thermostats and – PROBLEM GONE!!!! So now, at long, long last, I’m able to drive the car in heavy traffic without anxiously watching the temperature gauge all the time. Happy days indeed

And that’s about the end of the car’s history to date. Future plans include doing something with those rear leaf springs – do I get them replaced, re-tempered, or fit coil over shocks? I also want to up rate the brakes, which will mean fitting larger 17” wheels so I can get space for 6-pot callipers; I’ve finally found a firm who can supply 17” Rostyle type wheels, but have yet to check the offset etc to see if they’ll fit the FF hub [Zac – they won’t].
Watch this space!

Paul Strange.
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Re: Paul Strange's modified FF

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Terrific!

May I please ask what is the size size of the overhauled engine?
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It's 496 cu in., so not a shrinking violet!!!!!
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shiraz kid wrote:It's 496 cu in., so not a shrinking violet!!!!!
That's 8.1 litres :shock:
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Fabulous post!

Good luck, Paul

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Hello Paul,

Looks very sharp - well done!!

(And good luck in your new position)

What exhaust are you using? I found the standard 1"7/8 (?) very restrictive on my CV8

Cheers

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Steve,

At present I've got the Cropredy so-called "big bore" exhaust system with standard cast iron manifolds - so not good.

I'm investigating suppliers of s/s headers and a better exhaust system - Rejen have said that they may be able to help with one for the FF.

But let me know if you've got a similar system!

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Paul, it may be worth speaking to PD Gough in Nottingham, they do one offs and should be able to make something up.

They supplied the (standard) exhaust for my FF to the previous owner back in 1989, thinking that the exhaust had done well to last since then before a baffle came loose, I contacted them for a replacement, when I mentioned that they had supplied the exhaust they looked it up in their records and then replaced it free of charge, even though I was the next owner and it was nearly 20 years later.

They also do exhausts for the Matra Murena I used to have, theirs seemed to be the only ones that didn't keep splitting.
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Didn't I read recently that Appleyards do FF headers now? only a week or so ago.
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Re: Paul Strange's modified FF

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Hi Paul,

I have stainless headers on my Mk1 Interceptor (purchased from Andy B) and made the rest myself to suit.

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Headers look the part; but unneccesary in my opinion for a standard car.

For my 496ci CV8 I'm using the standard log cast manifolds, and had a 2.5" stainless system built with crossover pipe to my pattern (very keenly priced - PM me if you'd like to know more - the chaps' in S. London)

It really opens it up (I had a few problems with retained heat - and the manifolds used to almost glow with the heat - all gone with this new system)

I can't find any pics on this PC, but you can just see the pipes in this shot;

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Cheers,

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Found some more pics (of the Interceptor not CV8);

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Spoke to Mr Brooks today on this very subject and he can now supply headers for the FF. I'm about to order a set of large bore headers for CEA (already running a large bore system).
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