Radiator grille Jensen S- or H- Type?

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Been for sale for some time.
Interesting history.
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Wonder why the South American head of state who had ordered it refused to accept it?
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Richard Calver wrote:A Jensen S or H has 20 slats, not 16 as shown, and the shell cannot function without a filler neck so I doubt it is a Jensen shell. Perhaps one of our Deutsch-sprechers could interrogate the vendor. "If you get ze answers wrong, it vil not go easy for you, ja?"
Jawoll, vrote a mail, vill lett you know ze ansver.

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I asked him a question and supplied him with Richard's information yesterday in the evening.

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Gregory Peck must have been a Jensen man. As well as owning the PW convertible, in the film "the Omen" he played the American ambassador to Britain and drove an Interceptor convertible..
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Looks like a PW shell to me. Same number of slats and also starter handle hole in same place as PW.
Chrome trim is not present and possibly never fitted with any or there would be a load of 3/16" holes all round the shell edges.
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Just enlarged the photo and you can just see the edge and top chrome trim pieces, so it would seem to be a PW shell. Wonder where the rest of the car is ?
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Just put the links to my PW grille in the Early cars section.
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Frankoid wrote:Gregory Peck must have been a Jensen man. As well as owning the PW convertible, in the film "the Omen" he played the American ambassador to Britain and drove an Interceptor convertible..
no! really? omen/jensen? must watch that movie again. still scared, although it's been a few years since I've seen it.
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Can one of the German/Swiss members get in touch with the seller and try to find out where he obtained the grille and if he knows if it came from a PW that was scrapped, or did it in fact come with the convertible PW as a spare ?
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"Now that chassis number is particularly interesting ‘cos it’s the one after the one before, which is the one after mine, not many people know that"
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Frankoid wrote:Gregory Peck must have been a Jensen man. As well as owning the PW convertible, in the film "the Omen" he played the American ambassador to Britain and drove an Interceptor convertible..
Can you tell me the source, that Gregory peck once owned my Jensen PW Convertible?
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oktagon88 wrote:
Frankoid wrote:Gregory Peck must have been a Jensen man. As well as owning the PW convertible, in the film "the Omen" he played the American ambassador to Britain and drove an Interceptor convertible..
Can you tell me the source, that Gregory peck once owned my Jensen PW Convertible?
From "Birmingham Post", date 30/05/13;

Solihull man in hunt for rare Jensen car owned by his father

A West Midland man is hoping to be reunited with a rare 1950 West Bromwich-built Jensen once owned by his father.

David Pond, aged 68, of Solihull, has tracked down the drop-head, four-litre PW covertible, FEA 334, to Germany more than 50 years after he last travelled in it. The car, one of only two of its kind ever built by Jensen, was later owned by the Hollywood star Gregory Peck and by blockbuster author Clive Cussler.


“Apparently the car is being offered for sale by its German owner, who is asking for a price equivalent to about £70,000,” Mr Pond said. “It seems not to have been restored, as I believed it had been, and this would mean whoever bought it would have to spend about another £40,000.”

Mr Pond is making plans to travel to Germany to view the car.

It was bought by his father, Walter Frederick Pond, who owned a tool merchant’s shop in Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham, in 1950 after striking an extraordinary deal with Jensen.

He took the car, which had originally been built for a South American head of state who subsequently refused to accept it, in settlement of a debt. Up to Walter’s death in 1957 the distinctive Jensen was used as an everyday car and towed a caravan on family holidays.


It was offered for sale through Newbury Motors in Manor Lane, Halesowen, and passed through the hands of several owners in the north of England and London before going to the US in the 1980s where it was acquired by Clive Cussler and Gregory Peck.

By 1989 it was owned by a Robert Hogdahl, of Gothenberg, Sweden, and he sold it to its present owner in Germany early last year. Mr Pond pieced the car’s history together after talking to enthusiasts on the Jensen Owners’ Club stand at the Classic Car Show at the NEC.

He is eager to learn more and anyone with information can contact him via the Jensen Owners’ Club at earlycars@joc.org.uk"
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I would like some confirmation that Gregory Peck owned this car. Clive Cussler certainly did, and then we believe a Mr.Peck, but there are other possible identities for this person apart from the British actor.

When I spoke with David Pond in 2008 he explained that with the towbar they used the car with a caravan for their holidays. In 1957 the family drove to North Cornwall for a caravan holiday, his father went into the sea and died, aged 47. In settlement of death duties they had to sell the car, which was advertised in "Motor" that year. It was described as one deceased owner, had covered 27,000 miles, been serviced by the factory, and fetched £400.

In spite of at least two resprays during its lifetime and the recent strip down in Germany, I would be interested whether any paint analysis was done before it was stripped, especially to find the original shade of yellow and indeed of the subsequent grey. I hope it was stripped by a competent restorer who did not just destroy all this evidence.

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By the way, when David Pond asked readers to contact him via the Early Cars Registrar of the JOC - at the time that was me.

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