1965 Jensen CV8 THE ONE AND ONLY CONVERTIBLE

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1965 Jensen CV8 THE ONE AND ONLY CONVERTIBLE

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Just one Jensen CV8 Convertible was manufactured by Jensen Motors. The original idea for a CV8 Convertible coming from Richard and Alan Jensen. Once completed, the car was sold to Lord Carrington. This unique car survives today. The Museum looks at the history of JM-EXP-108.
The chassis for the CV8 Convertible, given the experimental number, JM-EXP-108, was based on that of the MK.II. Although the standard MK.II chassis needed to be lengthened by nine inches.
Initial work started in summer of 1964, but the project wasn’t without issues, and at one stage in September 1964, work temporarily stopped and the experimental Convertible side-lined
Work restarted, after discussions about how the car should be finished took place with Pat Follett and other distributors. All of whom seemed keen on a production CV8 Convertible. By June 1965, the prototype CV8 Convertible was completed. The finished car had a specification of smoke green paint with grey leather trim and hood.
Although the car had started life with a converted MK.II chassis, it did end up being bodied and finished with many of the new MK.III nuances. The CV8 MK.III would be treated to Burr Walnut instead of the Formica finish of MK.IIs, however, Chief Engineer & Designer, Eric Neale, made the decision to finish the dash in matching grey leather. His reasoning being the grey leather would be far less reflective on an open top car such as the CV8 Convertible. Lord Carrington would later have that changed to Burr Walnut. Other specifics for the Convertible was wind down windows to the rear.

The completed car was purchased into stock by the London-based Jensen distributors, Charles Follett.
Government Foreign Secretary Lord Carrington, of the time, was excited by the unique Jensen CV8 Convertible, and agreed to purchase the car. Bearing his private registration number, XYU 7, the prototype Convertible was put to the test by its new owner. Collecting the car from Charles Follett in a thunderstorm started the first issue with the car. The hood was leaking.
Outside of complaints of leaks to the hood (and in particular, the hood stitching, which Carrington stated was porous and allowing water seepage), there was also a number of smaller niggling faults.

Back at the factory, work commenced to improve the overall quality of the hood. Eventually they managed to cure the leaks, although under fierce water testing a couple of very small leaks were identified, which were deemed acceptable, and were synonymous with most convertibles of the era.
With work completed, Deputy Chief Engineer, Kevin Beattie, was asked to test-drive JM-EXP-108, and to give his thoughts on the CV8 Convertible as an ongoing project. He found a number issues with the car, including torsional weakness, exhaust boom, some understeer, and a slightly loose feeling in the way the car drove.
In conclusion, Beattie stated that more development work would be required before a CV8 Convertible could be put into production. To put such a car into production in its current form would lead (in his opinion) to customer dissatisfaction, (All of these faults have subsequently been cured over the years).

With other projects on the agenda, such as the four-wheel-drive Jensen FF, and; perhaps more pertinently; the P66 Convertible, the CV8 Convertible project was shelved.
Meanwhile the prototype CV8 Convertible went back to its owner. Various issues continued to raise their head. Such as the fitting of the MK.III braking system (JM-EXP-108 had the MK.II type braking system fitted to the car).
Lord Carrington had felt his car should have the new brake system fitted free of charge, and also asked that the entire car be resprayed. As with the braking system, he was expecting this free of charge as well, due to a few cracks that had developed in the paintwork.

In addition, the matter of the hood was brought up again. As with the braking system, and respray, Carrington felt a new hood should be fitted free of charge.
A series of letters went backwards and forwards between Jensen Motors and Charles Follett. The CV8 chassis file documents doesn’t seem to show the outcome, and although the brakes were changed, and the paintwork damage completed, there isn’t confirmation of a new hood being fitted. However, at some point in the car’s life, the hood was changed, and the colour of the hood material changed from grey to green. It is quite possible Lord Carrington got his way in the end, and a new hood was put on during his ownership.
Time had in any event moved on, and Lord Carrington was taken by the new Italian styled Jensen Interceptor. Despite the faults with the prototype CV8 Convertible, Lord Carrington placed an order with Charles Follett, and received one of the first Interceptors – Chassis number 115/2509
By February 1967, Lord Carrington had taken ownership of his Interceptor, and meanwhile, the CV8 convertible had been given back to Chares Follett in part-exchange. His private registration, XYU 7 had been removed (ready to go on to the Interceptor), and LPP 766C assigned.

The CV8 Convertible would find a new owner immediately. Phillip Southall from Rednall in Birmingham, had a passion for open-air motoring. He had heard about the unique CV8 Convertible in late 1964 when it was mentioned in The Financial Times.

Unfortunately Southall left it to late before contacting the factory about the car, and by the time he did, the car had already been sold. Contacting Jensen’s Sales Manager, Jim Branson, Southall learnt that the car had been sold to Lord Carrington. Then contacting Charles Follett, Southall mentioned as and when the car came up for sale again, he would be prepared to purchase it immediately.

Southall’s patience paid off, and in 1967 he was contacted by Charles Follett, to say the car had just been part-exchanged in against a new Interceptor. Southall agreed to buy the CV8 Convertible straight away, selling his Aston Martin DB2/4 Convertible in the process. Southall’s new Jensen had covered just over 21,000 miles, and the new owner wanted Jensen Motors to undertake various service and rectification work before he started driving the car.

Southall was certainly enthusiastic about his purchase, and outside of general service work didn’t seem to have the range of problems found by Lord Carrington.
The CV8 Convertible remained his daily transport up to 1973, by which time spiralling petrol costs, forced Southall to keep the car as an occasional driver.
As at 2017, Bryant still owns the CV8 Convertible. During his custodianship, he has maintained the car sympathetically, and even today, the car remains on its original smoke green paint, and with its original leather interior. The Museum hopes that Bryant, or any future custodian will resist the temptation to have the car resprayed or retrimmed.

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Isn't this the only one that survives. I understand that Bonhams will auction on 26th May. Cannot give an estimate as car is "unique". Some one take a look. Will probably need a lot of fetterling and some one with lots of loot. Of interest only to JOC people I would think or museum. However watch the Aussies. Kenny38
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Quite well-known in the UK club, I believe. I saw it at the CV8 50th anniversary at Waddesdon a few years back, and also at an International, and it was a lovely old thing, full of period charm and patina.
"Now that chassis number is particularly interesting ‘cos it’s the one after the one before, which is the one after mine, not many people know that"
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Did this C V8 sell? Kenny38
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Our Jensen is still for sale from our barn in Hampshire.
It wasn't due to auction at Bonhams in May.
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I can only think of one Jensen over the last 20 years that had an asking price of £200k or more and it eventually sold for £100k less I believe. Otherwise I don’t think any Jensen is worth this today in its current condition - and I have recently written a book about some very worthy contenders (not mine) but I don’t think any are worth that figure even in a dealer.

There is also the niggle that whenever I have bought classic cars even from top dealers there has been a minimum of £30-£50k to spend, excluding paint and trim, to get the car fully sorted. Maybe other members’ experience is different?

Having said all that the CV8 Convertible is a wonderful car and deserves a good home having been on the market for some time.
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David Davies wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:59 pm I can only think of one Jensen over the last 20 years that had an asking price of £200k or more and it eventually sold for £100k less I believe. Otherwise I don’t think any Jensen is worth this today in its current condition - and I have recently written a book about some very worthy contenders (not mine) but I don’t think any are worth that figure even in a dealer.

There is also the niggle that whenever I have bought classic cars even from top dealers there has been a minimum of £30-£50k to spend, excluding paint and trim, to get the car fully sorted. Maybe other members’ experience is different?

Having said all that the CV8 Convertible is a wonderful car and deserves a good home having been on the market for some time.
I was told by one owner that he was recently offered quite a bit more than £200k for his Jensen- in many ways a car similar to the C-V8 Convertible...
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I’m not aware of any actual transactions. It may be a little different when it comes to parting with the cash
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What is really interesting is that the car apparently has it's original trim and paint, and not just "painted the right colour"!
Have you seen our stolen Jensen FF 119/011 https://twitter.com/jensenffdotcom
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johnw wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:07 pm What is really interesting is that the car apparently has it's original trim and paint, and not just "painted the right colour"!
Just like the other car I mentioned
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I think it’s a splendid car though the paint has in my view been recently refreshed and the dashboard and carpets are not original.

It’s just been on the market for a long time at 250 and then 200 and not sold. Sort of proves my point. It’s too much.
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The car at the 2013 JOC International- I cannot say what was done over the years, but I was impressed by the car. Also chatted with the owners, Derek Chapman was interested if the windshield was the same as the P66 (I think it wasn‘t).
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Who are those two nice people in the last picture? Derek and a friend? :wink: A fantastic collection of Jensen's there! I think I would be smiling if they were all mine!
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I think I was on Welcoming duty at the gate that year - I needed a snorkel and flippers.
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johnw wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:37 pm Who are those two nice people in the last picture?
Those two were (are?) the custodians of the Convertible- and I remember Stephen out there guarding the front entrance :D
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